Google has lost TM battle for GMAIL - Searchen Networks - Internet Advertising & Search Engine Marketing Forum

**clasione** · #1 07-15-2005, 10:43 PM

Has anyone noticed yet that it seems Google has lost on their trademark application for the mark "GMAIL"....

After 2 attempts to seal the name, it appears the right to use has been assigned to a company out of Miami FL

I'm sure they will be changing the name soon....

Here are some details I found:

CENCOURSE, Inc.
4070 Woodridge Rd
Miami, FL 33133
United States

2005-05-09 - Law Office Publication Review Completed
2005-05-06 - Assigned To LIE
2005-05-02 - Approved for Pub - Principal Register (Initial exam)
2005-05-02 - Amendment to Use approved
2005-04-13 - Teas/Email Correspondence Entered
2005-04-04 - Communication received from applicant
2005-04-11 - Teas/Email Correspondence Entered
2005-03-31 - Communication received from applicant
2005-04-04 - TEAS Response to Office Action Received
2005-03-31 - TEAS Response to Office Action Received
2004-11-03 - Non-final action e-mailed
2004-11-03 - Non-Final Action Written
2004-10-19 - Case file assigned to examining attorney
2004-08-10 - Amendment From Applicant Entered
2004-07-30 - Communication received from applicant
2004-08-10 - Amendment to use processing complete
2004-07-30 - Amendment to Use filed
2004-07-30 - TEAS Amendment of Use Received
2004-04-09 - New Application Entered In Tram

GOOGLE INC.
1600 AMPHITHEATRE PARKWAY
MOUNTAIN VIEW, CA 94043

2005-04-29 - Report Completed Suspension Check Case Still Suspended
2005-03-25 - TEAS Change of Correspondence Received
2004-10-29 - Letter of suspension e-mailed
2004-10-29 - Suspension Letter Written
2004-10-22 - Case file assigned to examining attorney
2004-04-12 - New Application Entered In Tram

Google Inc.
Building 41 1600 Ampitheatre Parkway
Mountain View, CA 94043

2005-05-12 - Report Completed Suspension Check Case Still Suspended
2004-10-29 - Letter of suspension e-mailed
2004-10-29 - Suspension Letter Written
2004-10-28 - Case file assigned to examining attorney
2004-04-16 - New Application Entered In Tram

Definetly the first time I have ever seen Google loose at anything.... I guess there is a first time for everything....

If you've got an idea, you'd better make sure your the first to send it the application cause it's pretty obvious that application date means everything....

N-Sane · #2 07-16-2005, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clasione

Has anyone noticed yet that it seems Google has lost on their trademark application for the mark "GMAIL"....

After 2 attempts to seal the name, it appears the right to use has been assigned to a company out of Miami FL

I'm sure they will be changing the name soon....

Here are some details I found:

CENCOURSE, Inc.
4070 Woodridge Rd
Miami, FL 33133
United States

2005-05-09 - Law Office Publication Review Completed
2005-05-06 - Assigned To LIE
2005-05-02 - Approved for Pub - Principal Register (Initial exam)
2005-05-02 - Amendment to Use approved
2005-04-13 - Teas/Email Correspondence Entered
2005-04-04 - Communication received from applicant
2005-04-11 - Teas/Email Correspondence Entered
2005-03-31 - Communication received from applicant
2005-04-04 - TEAS Response to Office Action Received
2005-03-31 - TEAS Response to Office Action Received
2004-11-03 - Non-final action e-mailed
2004-11-03 - Non-Final Action Written
2004-10-19 - Case file assigned to examining attorney
2004-08-10 - Amendment From Applicant Entered
2004-07-30 - Communication received from applicant
2004-08-10 - Amendment to use processing complete
2004-07-30 - Amendment to Use filed
2004-07-30 - TEAS Amendment of Use Received
2004-04-09 - New Application Entered In Tram

GOOGLE INC.
1600 AMPHITHEATRE PARKWAY
MOUNTAIN VIEW, CA 94043

2005-04-29 - Report Completed Suspension Check Case Still Suspended
2005-03-25 - TEAS Change of Correspondence Received
2004-10-29 - Letter of suspension e-mailed
2004-10-29 - Suspension Letter Written
2004-10-22 - Case file assigned to examining attorney
2004-04-12 - New Application Entered In Tram

Google Inc.
Building 41 1600 Ampitheatre Parkway
Mountain View, CA 94043

2005-05-12 - Report Completed Suspension Check Case Still Suspended
2004-10-29 - Letter of suspension e-mailed
2004-10-29 - Suspension Letter Written
2004-10-28 - Case file assigned to examining attorney
2004-04-16 - New Application Entered In Tram

Definetly the first time I have ever seen Google loose at anything.... I guess there is a first time for everything....

If you've got an idea, you'd better make sure your the first to send it the application cause it's pretty obvious that application date means everything....

I wonder what new name they will pick. I mean what else is there but Gmail? Googlemail?GooMail?

**clasione** · #3 07-17-2005, 05:53 PM

I recently heard a name go around that it may be the new name for Gmail, but I cannot remember where or what it was that I heard...

I'm guessing that this is the reason any talks of changing it where out there to begin with...
Anyway, if I remember I will post it....

lilys_things · #4 07-18-2005, 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clasione

I recently heard a name go around that it may be the new name for Gmail, but I cannot remember where or what it was that I heard...

I'm guessing that this is the reason any talks of changing it where out there to begin with...
Anyway, if I remember I will post it....

Where do you send in a application?
I have learned alot on these boards..

**clasione** · #5 07-19-2005, 06:51 AM

Take a look at this:
http://www.searchen.com/forum/t378-trademark-for-protection.html

lilys_things · #6 07-19-2005, 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clasione

Take a look at this:
http://www.searchen.com/forum/t378-t...rotection.html

Thank you, for your prompt reply as usual..

Thanol · #7 07-19-2005, 10:06 AM

Wow, Google lost. Maybe they'll end up buying the trademark or something.

Question if that one company owns the Gmail trademark can they sue Google for the domain name?

dirson · #8 07-19-2005, 11:09 AM

What does "the record is still LIVE" mean?
http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield...h=Submit+Query

Cencourse's registration was made on March 31st, just the same day Google announced Gmail:
http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield...ate=n6420v.2.3
isn't it weird?

gutz · #9 07-19-2005, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clasione

Take a look at this:
http://www.searchen.com/forum/t378-t...rotection.html

I also asked this question on that page ^ but thought it maybe belongs here???

Not knowing anything about trademarketing I have this to ask:
Do you file for trademark for each site or can you file for company and use that trademark?
Thanks in advance for advice!

**clasione** · #10 07-19-2005, 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirson

What does "the record is still LIVE" mean?
http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield...h=Submit+Query

Cencourse's registration was made on March 31st, just the same day Google announced Gmail:
http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield...ate=n6420v.2.3
isn't it weird?

LIVE means it's an active file... DEAD means the application is no good anymore....

**clasione** · #11 07-19-2005, 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gutz

I also asked this question on that page ^ but thought it maybe belongs here???

Not knowing anything about trademarketing I have this to ask:
Do you file for trademark for each site or can you file for company and use that trademark?
Thanks in advance for advice!

You need a seperate trademark for each individual mark you would like to hold.....

If your were marking the word "Biker Maniac" you would need a TM for that.... If you wanted to also have a trademark on the word "Biker Wide Web" - you would need a seperate application for that...

Each mark need it's own filing...

lilys_things · #12 07-19-2005, 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clasione

You need a seperate trademark for each individual mark you would like to hold.....

If your were marking the word "Biker Maniac" you would need a TM for that.... If you wanted to also have a trademark on the word "Biker Wide Web" - you would need a seperate application for that...

Each mark need it's own filing...

Well, I won't be trade-marking anytime soon..
I was just wondering..~lol~
i'll just pretend like mine is ~laughing~

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cwsteam.com · #13 07-21-2005, 11:05 AM

very interesting, let's see what g calls gmail.

I hope they don;t change the domain !!!

#14 01-06-2006, 11:02 AM

I did not know this. Gmail is a very cool name i hope they don't change it.

#15 01-07-2006, 09:06 AM

Good about time google didnt get something they wanted , thats the best news all day!

bzzubzzu · #16 01-07-2006, 11:39 AM

talk about wanting to kick yourself. I registered gmail.com in 1994 for my fledgling company Giant Steps (in Miami). My friend and I were developing a webmail application way back then, but we sold the webmail app to this old hosting company in Palm Beach called Hiway Technologies, and we sold about 100 domains we had to a guy who worked for the company in Miami called Deneba (who makes the Canvas drawing software).... At the time, my partners and I made enough loot to quit our day jobs and persue other things like skating/surfing and touring with our punk band.

you can imagine how funny it is that my buddy has a gmail address :-)