natural linking probabilities

[clasione]

Link popularity and anchor text walk a thin line together.....

Misuse them and you could be headed for big trouble in search...

If your building text links accross the web, it is important that these text links are not all exactly the same. Webmasters that link to their sites with the exact anchor text everywhere accross the web, could be headed for filters if they are not gaining natural links aswell.

It is extreamly important to acuire links focusing on theme rather then keyword alone. An example of an effective link campaign would be:

Keyword
keywords
effective keywords
effective keywording

This is a more natural linking probability..

If every single text link to your site webwide is simply:
"effective keywords"

your most likely to get filter out of the index for "effective keywords" based on text link marketing filters.

[seobook]

and some of your links you will want to avoid using your keywords at all in

[andy]

seobook

and some of your links you will want to avoid using your keywords at all in

Thats been worrying me lately, ive got a site i keep for some mountain biking friends.
Team something, the opposite of fit, un...

It was on first place on all 3 se's but google are playing with them selfs

anyway i noticed that ive getting links from sites i have no control over pointing my way describing me as something completely different, is this really a good thing?

[seo_expert]

Originally Posted by andy

seobook

anyway i noticed that ive getting links from sites i have no control over pointing my way describing me as something completely different, is this really a good thing?

this can really put your website under G's scanner.

for if the links are not quality and more importantly doesn't matches your website's theme, then you are in troubly...

this is spamming...thats what G would think...

so contact the webmasters who are pointing to your website and get them straight.....

[andy]

yea i was worried about that, some sort of negative affect, your right i will try and contact them

[seo_expert]

Originally Posted by andy

yea i was worried about that, some sort of negative affect, your right i will try and contact them

if I'm not wrong, this was the very reason SEOInc. was dropped from G 'cos lotta websites were spamming using their links to divert to another websites....

[andy]

im gonna have to loose the them from my site completely and put it on its own domain so i dont get targeted and contact the owners, thats tomorrows work now
thanks for the help anyway seo

[seo_expert]

Originally Posted by andy

im gonna have to loose the them from my site completely and put it on its own domain so i dont get targeted and contact the owners, thats tomorrows work now :-)
thanks for the help anyway seobook

can you explain that...I didn't get a thing....

[andy]

if i move the sub page to its own domain that should help right?
there must be a way out of this

This could all be the cause of my changes

[seo_expert]

Originally Posted by andy

if i move the sub page to its own domain that should help right?
there must be a way out of this

you bet...but this should be the last option...

well the only right way is to contact the webmasters and get things straight with them...

[spondishy]

Originally Posted by seo_expert

you bet...but this should be the last option...

well the only right way is to contact the webmasters and get things straight with them...

I'd have thought google wouldn't be too hard on you would they? If every site fell foul of bad links pointing to them, then we could take any site we wanted out of the page ranks.

[faremax]

Originally Posted by seo_expert

this can really put your website under G's scanner.

for if the links are not quality and more importantly doesn't matches your website's theme, then you are in troubly...

this is spamming...thats what G would think...

so contact the webmasters who are pointing to your website and get them straight.....

Id have to disagree with that statement. I have many HUNDREDS of BLs from completely unrelated sites. I've never had any problems even when my site was still pretty young and small with just 35 BLs. If they occured in a natural way you have nothing to worry about. Sudden jump in BL growth may trigger the filter temporarily. After each agressive BL campaign we always dropped a few pages back but always recovered within 1 month.

[seo_expert]

Google is very perticular about the type and quality of links as well as always checks for the theme relevancy to the website on which the link is there.

with your theory, anyone can link to whichever website they want. This is however not the truth.

Theme based links are given more weightage then the non-theme based. And if there is a large proportion of non-theme based links then Google thinks the website is not worth much.

As for the speed of securing links, you are right on target that the spped does matter.

Too many links too soon would make Google think your website is opting for "Burst Link Strategy" and Google puts a mark on the site to be banned later if things go over board.

[faremax]

for if the links are not quality and more importantly doesn't matches your website's theme, then you are in troubly...

Not being worth and being in trouble are 2 different things. G simply cannot punish for something you do not have control of. And you do not have control of who links to you. If this was the case and G punished sites for their backlinks I would be spending thousands a month on buyng links from all sorts of "bad neighborhoods" to my competitors to damage their SERPs. You can only imagine what would that result in. Big sites with tons of money would have no problems spending BIG money on keeping smaller fish down the drain.

There is another story with the way you link out. Yes, you can and will be punished for linking OUT to bad neighborhood sites.

[spondishy]

Originally Posted by seo_expert

Google is very perticular about the type and quality of links as well as always checks for the theme relevancy to the website on which the link is there.

with your theory, anyone can link to whichever website they want. This is however not the truth.

Theme based links are given more weightage then the non-theme based. And if there is a large proportion of non-theme based links then Google thinks the website is not worth much.

As for the speed of securing links, you are right on target that the spped does matter.

Too many links too soon would make Google think your website is opting for "Burst Link Strategy" and Google puts a mark on the site to be banned later if things go over board.

Wouldn't it make more sense for Google just to ignore the "bad" incoming links?

[andy]

Originally Posted by seo_expert
for if the links are not quality and more importantly doesn't matches your website's theme, then you are in troubly...
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Google is very perticular about the type and quality of links as well as always checks for the theme relevancy to the website on which the link is there.
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Trouble is i have an identity crisis and my site doesnt have a theme instead it has allways contained lots of totally different stuff, its never been themed about one thing

Im just gonna have to start moving things to there own domain and expand while keeping it simple

[faremax]

I'd advise against opening new domains. Stay with the one you already have. Just start a linking campaign. Not too agressive if the domain is under 1 year. Faiurly aressive if your domain is 1-2 years old and very agressive if your domain is older than 2 years. Just get BLs from themed domains. You can check what G thinks your theme is at http://labs.google.com/personalized/...ed?url=http://

[andy]

just 301 it for a while? to late i bought it before my last post

[seo_expert]

Originally Posted by faremax

Not being worth and being in trouble are 2 different things. G simply cannot punish for something you do not have control of. And you do not have control of who links to you. If this was the case and G punished sites for their backlinks I would be spending thousands a month on buyng links from all sorts of "bad neighborhoods" to my competitors to damage their SERPs. You can only imagine what would that result in. Big sites with tons of money would have no problems spending BIG money on keeping smaller fish down the drain.

There is another story with the way you link out. Yes, you can and will be punished for linking OUT to bad neighborhood sites.

Site which has link on it get punished and not the other way round...so trying to bring SERPS down from your competitors be having lotta bad links on your website wouldn't effect your competitots but definitely hurt you...

G does penalise you for your backlinks....the whole theory of PR is not just LINKS but GOOD QUALITY LINKS.